I’ve been scraping the newly released 1939 register – sometime I’ll post how I did it. There were over 500 Micklethwait(e)s and Micklewhites to look at. I’ve now incorporated the information into my database. There were no outstanding revelations, but over 25 new pieces of information, either allowing me to work out when someone died, or who married whom. So a useful exercise.
Posted by andymick on November 8, 2015
I recently found some Settlement Orders on Ancestry. These relate to the Poor Law regulations operating before 1834 when workhouses were introduced nationally. Before 1834, care of the poor was the responsibility of the parish, and there were rules about who was eligible. If you weren’t eligible, you were “removed” to the parish which was responsible for your settlement.
The one that interested me most was for Mary Micklethwaite who was to be removed from Emley to Denby in 1803. The document detailed how her husband Jonathan was serving with the 84th Regiment of Foot (who I think were in India at the time). This matches the Mary Stead who married Jonathan Micklethwaite in Huddersfield in 1801.
This solves the Micklethwaite/Stead mystery. Joseph Micklethwaite was born about 1803 but I couldn’t find a baptism. I did find that some of his descendants used the surname Stead. I then found a baptism for a Joseph Stead to Mary Stead in Emley in 1803, but I couldn’t work out how Mary was related. Now it seems likely that Mary had Joseph by an unnamed father whilst Jonathan was in the Army and Joseph was baptised with Mary’s maiden name. So Joseph’s branch of the family can be linked (by name, not by blood/DNA) to Jonathan.
A second settlement document in 1806 for Mary mentions that she is pregnant. I had a branch for a William Micklethwaite that I hadn’t been able to progress. Now I find that there’s a birth for a William Stead to Mary Stead in Emley in 1807. It all ties together. There are 2 less unexplained branches!
Mary died in 1820, and it seems highly likely that Jonathan married Judith Inman – another mystery sorted.
Posted by andymick on September 17, 2015
Scraping FreeBMD is trivial. Why? Because there’s a button on the site which does just what we want. It’s labelled “Download”, and it downloads to your computer the data displayed on the screen. (it’s just to the left of the Key, under “Save Search”) One important point to make here is that there is a limit on the number of results FreeBMD will display – currently 3000, which is probably rather ambitious anyway!
For those of you in The Surname Society, Colin Spencer has made an excellent video of the process (it’s clear and concise for those, like me, who don’t really go for video tutorials – I prefer the written word, obviously, or I wouldn’t be writing this!) You can find the video in the Members section of the Society’s web site – on the menu, look for Surname School videos, then scroll down to Data Extraction.
For those of you not in the Society (why not? it’s only £5!), downloading the file gives you a Tab Separated Value file (like CSV, but with Tabs not commas). You can then import this file into Excel. Colin passes it through a text editor (he and I both like Notepad++) to convert it to a CSV, but I just right-clicked on the file in the file explorer and used “Open With” to load it into Excel (I use Excel 2003 – I hope other versions work similarly). Colin also uses Notepad to remove the extra column inserted by the FreeBMD format, but that’s easy to do directly in Excel.
There’s one major point I’d add to Colin’s tutorial. The format of results changes at some point – either you’ll need to add a column to part of the resulting spreadsheet to line up before and after results (prone to errors), or search in 2 parts (recommended). For births, mother’s maiden name is added from September quarter 1911. For marriages, spouse’s surname is added from March quarter 1912. For deaths, (alleged!) age at death is added from March quarter 1866.
Marriages of course show only the spouses’ surname, and that only from 1911. To get the possible spouses before that date, and/or the spouses’ given name after that date requires a more advanced technique.
Posted by andymick on August 24, 2015
I really hate transcribing stuff from one programme to another. Practically, my poor typing skills and a dodgy keyboard don’t help. Philosophically, I don’t see why I should have to type stuff from one window to another. What on earth are computers for?
With most genealogy programmes, GEDCOM can be used to transfer the basics from one programme to another. Multimedia data causes most problems, but careful batch editing and some basic scripting can solve many issues.
The biggest problem is extracting data from the web on the many online resources now available, especially the subscription sites. The conventional way is to look at the web page on the browser and re-type the data into the family history database, in my case introducing all kinds of errors on the way. What is needed is some way of getting the data off the browser and into a computer database without it being touched (or typed) by human hand. This can be done – it’s called web scraping.
There are many different ways of scraping data from the web, and also putting it back on to other web sites. I hope, in a series of posts, to share some of the ways this can be done.
Posted by andymick on August 19, 2015
I recently “repatriated” a photo album to its owners who had not seen it for 36 years – for the full story, see my web page features http://andymick.magix.net/public/features.htm
I’m sorry I’ve not posted much recently. My health is not as good and I don’t have the energy either for as much research or for posting. Also the Micklethwaite Family History group on Facebook has been taking up quite a bit of time and energy.
Posted by andymick on June 28, 2015
In his recent newsletter, Peter Calver at LostCousins described the “fertility” questions on the 1911 census – a married woman is asked to record how many children she had and how many are still alive. So a genealogist can look at this number and can compare it with the number he or she has recorded. My efforts are described below.
Incidentally, if you are interested in family history and haven’t registered with LostCousins, please do consider it. It’s well worthwhile as, although you don’t get contacts without quite a lot of hard work in entering your ancestors and their cousins, the contacts you do get are of good quality. Also, Peter’s newsletter is an excellent and informative read. You don’t have to pay money and subscribe, although that does help the business, you can just register. If you do decide to join, please let me refer you – I get “brownie points”!
So how did I do for missing children – I found 51 missing Micklethwaites in my One Name Study. Most had just 1 or sometimes 2 missing, but one family (Tom and Ann nee Newsam) had 13 children of which only 3 were alive in 1911. I only have 5 of their children in my database, so 8 are missing. Interestingly, this information was supplied in error by Ann (as Tom had died) as the census asked for married women to enter the information, not widows, and the enumerator usually crossed out widows entries, including this one. Tom’s family are on several public trees on Ancestry, but none of them have more than the 5 children I have.
The difficulty is relating the children who are missing with the children I have who are unattached. I have registration data, for births and deaths, but the index does not specify parental details, which can’t be found without buying the certificates (the birth index improved in 1912 by including the mother’s maiden name). Sometimes, baptisms can be found. Some burial details can also occasionally be found. Just occasionally, just one birth happens in a place where one child is missing. But the majority look set to remain missing.
Posted by andymick on January 7, 2015
Nigel and I made contact very recently through Genes Reunited (a rare success!) He has Ellis connections. So I started digging in my database to see what I could find.
I knew I had quite a few Ellis entries in the database – in fact it’s equal 8th in the list of most common spouse names:
I looked into the use of Micklethwaite as a given name last year as use of surnames as given names was not uncommon in the mid to late 1800s (see also http://andymick.magix.net/public/name.htm) – I found a Micklethwaite Ellis to go with the Ellis Micklethwaite (see below for both)!
So who are these folks? (Numbers in brackets are the identifiers in my database)
Ellis Micklethwaite (m3339), born/died 1878 to Henry and Harriet nee Ellis (see below). Ellis and Henry are descended from Joseph of Thornhill (m1038)
Ellis Jade Micklethwaite (k1951), born 1995 Leeds to Gary and Yvette nee Rainford. Ellis and Gary are descended from Jonas of Mirfield (J1)
Nadia Ellis Micklethwaite (k1887), born 1991 Barnsley, to Donna Micklethwaite and Ian Shirt. Nadia and Donna are descended from John of Penistone (m2600)
Albert Ellis married Annie Micklethwaite (m7549) in Dewsbury in 1927. Annie is descended from Elias of Mirfield (E1).
Ben Ellis married Elizabeth Micklethwaite (m1172) in Scisset in 1868. Elizabeth is descended from Maria of Penistone (m5646)
Benjamin Ellis married Rachel Micklethwaite (m2108) in Mirfield in 1797. Rachel is descended from Elias of Mirfield (E1)
Bertha Ellis married George Edward Micklethwaite (k3870) in Middlesbrough in 1957. George is descended from George of Emley (m3131)
Clarence F Ellis married Harriet Micklethwaite (m2706) in Barnsley in 1926. Harriet is the daughter of Frederick (m1425) and Fanny nee Ellis who married in Barnsley in 1889. A contact has found that Clarence is Fanny’s nephew, so this was a first cousin marriage. Frederick is descended from Joseph of Thornhill (m1038).
Edwin Ellis married Phoebe Micklethwaite (m1384) in Skelmanthorpe in 1898. Phoebe is descended from Maria of Penistone (m5646)
Ellen Ellis married Richard Micklethwaite (m7977) in Rotherham 1839. So far I haven’t identified Richard, but he could be the son of Jonathan and Ruth of Hatfield, descended from Richard of Cawthorne (JM1025), but I haven’t found census entries for 1841 or 1851, and by 1861 he’s married to Mary Woodley.
Fanny Ellis – see Clarence above.
Hannah Ellis married William Micklethwaite (m92) in Thornhill in 1845. William is descended from Elias of Mirfield (E1)
Harriet Ellis married Henry Micklethwaite (m65) in Thornhill in 1874. Henry is descended from Joseph of Thornhill (m1038)
Jabez Ellis married Julia Micklethwaite (m2115) in Mirfield in 1812. Julia is descended from Elias of Mirfield (E1). She later married George Lee in Mirfield in 1841.
John Ellis married Ann Micklethwaite (JMF11) in Felkirk in 1780. Ann is daughter of Richard of Felkirk, who is currently not connected to any of the branches.
John E Ellis married Alice A Micklethwaite (m7544) in Barnsley in 1934. Alice is descended from John of Penistone (m2600)
Louisa Elliss married Benjamin Micklethwaite (m5146) of Sheffield in London in 1813. Benjamin is descended from Josias of Silkstone m5590. See also Mary Ann. Was she related to Mary Ann?
Mary Ellis married Joseph Micklethwaite (m9588) in Penistone in 1785. Joseph is currently unidentified.
Mary Ellis married William Micklethwaite (m2487) in Ackworth in 1806. William is descended from Jonathan of Campsall (m5934)
Mary Ann Ellis married Benjamin Micklethwaite (m5146) in Sheffield in 1833, his second wife. Benjamin is descended from Josias of Silkstone m5590. Was she related to his first wife Louisa – see above? In 1851 and 1861 she was widowed housekeeper to her brothers John, Edwin, Frederick and Joseph.
Micklethwaite Ellis (m9452) believed to be the son of Henry and Mercy (or Mary) of Hartshead. The Micklethwaite connection is not yet known.
It’s interesting to see that the Micklethwaite – Ellis connections span many years, many places and several of the main Micklethwaite branches.
Posted by andymick on January 4, 2015
The WordPress.com stats helper monkeys prepared a 2014 annual report for this blog.
Here’s an excerpt:
A San Francisco cable car holds 60 people. This blog was viewed about 610 times in 2014. If it were a cable car, it would take about 10 trips to carry that many people.
Posted by andymick on December 30, 2014
I’ve been reading Michael W Foster’s book “A Comedy of Errors” (ISBN 0473055813). It’s not a particularly riveting read, but it is a fascinating and detailed description of the marriage registration process and of the errors that can happen and have happened therein.
The process starts with the wedding. We always assume that the vicar or minister has correctly written the names of the happy couple and the names of their fathers and the names of the witnesses. But sometimes he didn’t (did you check at your wedding?) and wrote the wrong name or the right name in the wrong place. Sometimes, of course, the bride or groom may not have given him correct information (e.g. age or father’s name), whether meaning to deceive or just not knowing the right details. So even the entry on the original church (or similar) register may have errors.
Then the vicar or minister, or his clerk, copies that information to the local register office. A copy always gives opportunities for errors and Foster finds the evidence for them. The local office copies it to the General Register Office. Details are temporarily copied on to a card so the entries can be sorted for the index, then copied, eventually, on to the index. More copying errors ensue, and also duplication where the clerk in the GRO can’t read someone’s writing. Then the indices had type-written copies made where more errors could occur. Sometimes too, entries were missed during the copying process, even whole pages of entries.
Foster gives lots of examples of these errors and extrapolates to how many errors there might be, but it’s difficult to extract a round number for the likely error rate.
The moral of the tale: if something doesn’t seem right with a marriage registration, it’s very possible that it isn’t right!
Posted by andymick on December 18, 2014
I’ve a new friend – her name is Rebecca. Actually she’s more formally known as Linux Mint Cinnamon release 17.1 And I’ve dumped that awful Win8.1 for something a lot faster and less demanding (particularly of “real-estate” on the screen). I’ve not sworn at the computer once since Rebecca took over, something SWMBO is much happier with.
Since getting Linux going 2 weeks ago, I’ve only had to return to Windoze once, and that’s because I needed to print something out more quickly than sorting out printers would take (which I’ve now done – you need to put your Linux user in the group “vboxusers” for USB devices to be picked up by VirtualBox). The real beauty was than the virtual machine file which I use to run WindowsXP just moved across to Linux and I could use it just as soon as I’d worked out how to get VirtualBox to recognise existing files.
I’m sure there will be problems ahead and I’ve still got some software to install, but at the moment I’m delighted!
Posted by andymick on December 14, 2014